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Wanting to run away and live on the streets (Melbourne)

Smokin'Ace
11-14-2007, 01:30 AM
Hey everyone.

I really need some advice... but my life is hell at the moment. I had to drop out of school because it's so bad in this small town I currently live in. I work at K.F.C at the moment... And only get 2 hours a week, when I applied to work for at least 38hours a week.. But they don't think I'm ready :mad: When I worked a 6 hour shift the other night because someone was sick and they called me in.

Anyway... I guess work is ok.. but It's just I have no real friends here in the town and seems like everyone seems to have something against me and my mum is really getting on my nerves... and I just want to leave it all and start a fresh life in Melbourne. I've already talked to my mum about it... and she said she wont help me finacally to get a place that will keep me safe from everything (gangs an all) so now I have no choice... But to run away onto the streets. :(

I really want to finish my education... but I just can't do it here. So I want out... I plan on going in 2 weeks time... I was wondering if anyone else on the streets can keep me company or whatever who are currently homeless in Melbourne at the moment... or get some advice or something... anyway.. fantastic forum you guys.

P.S - Sorry if wrong forum... I'm really tired and upset... I'm sure a mod or admin will move it. :)

Thanks all.

Konstantěn
11-14-2007, 02:55 AM
Hey Smokin'Ace, and welcome to the forums.

Having no friends in a country town sucks. I feel for you.
When I was 15 I was in a Victorian country town so I have some idea what it's like.

While I think moving to Melbourne is a good idea for someone in your circumstances, I think going on the streets is a really bad idea, and not your only choice. Backpacker lodges are one idea, the online ones are fairly pricey, better bet is to get a Melbourne phone book and ring around.

One thing to bear in mind, now is a bad time to do the move, because it's almost Christmas, so every form of short term accomodation will be $$$$$$$$$ to max.
I can understand you're tired and upset, but you still have to think carefully, it's not a thing to do lightly and without planning it out first.

What education are you hoping to do?

Regards,
Konstantin.

Smokin'Ace
11-14-2007, 03:37 AM
Hey Smokin'Ace, and welcome to the forums.

Having no friends in a country town sucks. I feel for you.
When I was 15 I was in a Victorian country town so I have some idea what it's like.

While I think moving to Melbourne is a good idea for someone in your circumstances, I think going on the streets is a really bad idea, and not your only choice. Backpacker lodges are one idea, the online ones are fairly pricey, better bet is to get a Melbourne phone book and ring around.

One thing to bear in mind, now is a bad time to do the move, because it's almost Christmas, so every form of short term accomodation will be $$$$$$$$$ to max.
I can understand you're tired and upset, but you still have to think carefully, it's not a thing to do lightly and without planning it out first.

What education are you hoping to do?

Regards,
Konstantin.Hey Konstantěn :) and thanks for that post.

I don't really know what sort of career I want when I'm older... so I don't really know what sort of education I would need etc... I just at least want a year 10 standard in English & Maths and hopefully try and get into something involving around the computer area of things. I've been really good with computers for my whole life. :)

And you do have a very valid point when you say It's getting close to Christmas and all.. I guess it's to bad It's that time once again for another year. You also say that Backpackers around Melbourne might be a choice for me? Well... I've done some searching around and they all only seem to take 18 and over (Probably because they are scared someone my age is going to get raped or something, which is understandable) But however... I know some do allow you to stay there in your 'own' room... but the only problem with that is it's really expensive $80+/night and I don't have that sort of money and another thing stopping me doing that is I would need my mums permission and all. :( But I will get a Melbourne phone book maybe even use the white/yellow pages on the net and see what I can find.

But yeah I love the city and expectally Melbourne... I just want to start fresh there and hopefully get a good life and future. But It's just getting to the point where I feel weak while being in this town and wanting to do something stupid like kill myself :(, and I really don't want to end my life because of the dam people in this town.

Anyway thanks for replying mate, glad to see some aussies are on the forum. :)

Dominic
11-14-2007, 04:13 AM
A service that can best help in your situation is Reconnect (http://forums.homeless.org.au/showthread.php?t=341). That link is to the list of providers by region, find the one nearest you and they are the best ones to call to start with.

'now I have no choice' is utter bullshit (with all due respect). What you don't have is enough information about how to improve your current situation or transition safely into a new future.

I think you may already be in St. Kilda. Is that so?

If you believe more hours at work would help you gain a strong enough reference from your manager to in 3 months get a transfer to a city store... talk to me on PM or email me. That's something I may be able to make happen if you are serious about applying yourself in the role and will work hard to earn that reference.

Realistically though you haven't told us anything other than life sucks. Life sucks for a lot of 15 year old girls but they don't turn to the streets. What's the full story? I thought you had to go to school till you were 16 minimum?

Why should your mum support you if you want to dash off to fantasy land?

On the streets, don't worry about gangs, it will only take one person to strip you of everything you have in terms of possessions and take whatever they want from you sexually any time they want any day of the week. Read Melissa's story (http://www.homeless.org.au/people/melissa.htm), and more of the forums.

I'm not trying to be a bastard, I'm just trying to challenge you to explore your options further - get more info from Reconnect initially and plan to build a life for yourself in an adult way, through prior planning with all the information and options in front of you.

You will find friends here, you will find support here you will get excellent tips here but you have to put your cards on the table if you want respect.

As for the killing yourself stuff. It's one of life's intelligence tests. If you fail it your dead. I know you aren't that weak. So ok, it's fine to have suicidal thoughts, it comes with the territory, but you have a reason why you haven't done it already. You know what that reason is. So enough of that, lets talk future plans.

Calling Reconnect is the first step. Some branches are awesome, a rare few suck, so if you get one that sucks let me know on PM what area you are in and I'll find a better contact for you.

P.S. I'm a Social Worker

Smokin'Ace
11-14-2007, 04:44 AM
A service that can best help in your situation is Reconnect (http://forums.homeless.org.au/showthread.php?t=341). That link is to the list of providers by region, find the one nearest you and they are the best ones to call to start with.

Ok I'll look into that.


'now I have no choice' is utter bullshit (with all due respect). What you don't have is enough information about how to improve your current situation or transition safely into a new future.

I only feel like I have no other choice because of the options I have at the moment... Trust me dude.. I've had a very hard life and I know a lot of people here have even harder.. You saying that singles me out to be the last to care for? That's my own honest opinion

I think you may already be in St. Kilda. Is that so?I take it your looking at my IP Address? or your not very good at guessing where people live... But No dude.. I don't live in St. Kilda.. If I was... then I wouldn't be complaining about the country life near Wangaratta, Shepperton. And I 'wouldn't' be on this forum.

If you believe more hours at work would help you gain a strong enough reference from your manager to in 3 months get a transfer to a city store... talk to me on PM or email me. That's something I may be able to make happen if you are serious about applying yourself in the role and will work hard to earn that reference.Yeah that's what I was planning on doing... But I would prefer to get my training completed first... (Even tho I know how to do everything).

Realistically though you haven't told us anything other than life sucks. Life sucks for a lot of 15 year old girls but they don't turn to the streets. What's the full story? I thought you had to go to school till you were 16 minimum?

Ok... I'll tell you more around the area of things... I dropped out 8 months ago (year 9) because of harassment, false aligations from teachers getting me into trouble for the stupidest of things a.k.a (Saying the word crap for messing up on a times table) and just so you know I got 3 days suspension for that and 1 detention. I was ganged up on day after day... by more then 10, 50, make it 100 kids at a time to make me fight other kids because of false rumors going around saying I said shit about them (people I don't even know). Now I thought going to school was to get an education and have a fun time while learning.. well not in this case.. because I never learnt a thing but defend myself in these situations.

Everytime I was in class (for example: Science) Kids would say shit like "Ohh so and so is staring at me I think I might put a sexual harassment claim on him blah blah blah, then the other kids would react and wow... I'm out of the class just like that... and when ever I'm not in the class... the kids act like little angles towards the teacher and be little suck ups. But whenever I'm in the class... They would lie to the teacher about the so called things I'm doing when I'm 'actually' trying to do my dam work.

And yes you do have to be in school until your 16 'legally'... That's why the Department Of Education Is on my back... But they haven't done anything major to get me back to school... So I'm not too worried about what might happen... I'm 16 soon enough.

Why should your mum support you if you want to dash off to fantasy land?

Fantasy land? hahaha.. (sorry if your thinking I'm being a smart-arse) But honestly dude.. you think that I think living on the streets is the best thing that can happen to you? I don't think so... Actually you couldn't be more wrong! I think living on the streets would be hell! And running from the cops for being underage e.t.c. So NO I don't think It's fantasy land. What a stupid thing to say. :(

On the streets, don't worry about gangs, it will only take one person to strip you of everything you have in terms of possessions and take whatever they want from you sexually any time they want any day of the week. Read Melissa's story (http://www.homeless.org.au/people/melissa.htm), and more of the forums.I feel sorry for Melissa and that is terrible to hear... But don't forget that people run away onto the streets for different reasons.

I'm not trying to be a bastard, I'm just trying to challenge you to explore your options further - get more info from Reconnect initially and plan to build a life for yourself in an adult way, through prior planning with all the information and options in front of you.

'now I have no choice' don't talk shit like that to people who have gone through ten types of hell all ready and truly gotten to the point of having no choice left unless you put your cards on the table.

Let's have some honesty. You will find friends here, you will find support here you will get excellent tips here but you have to put your cards on the table if you want respect.Do you think I am being un-honest towards you and other members? Well that's just great to hear from the Forum Admin.

And I know others have been through a lot more hell then me... And I feel greatful that none of the stuff I've been reading has happened to me yet, but at the same time I feel sorry for all the girls at there getting sexually abused and the males turning into criminals and all that... I really DO!

Conclusion... I don't think your post was very fair... And to be honest with you... I am completely shocked that you have treated me with no respect at all. And NO I don't want people to post what 'I' want to hear.. I want them to post there opinions.. And this is yours.. (Your of course entitled to it) but sorry dude i have to disagree with a few of your points.

Dominic
11-14-2007, 05:27 AM
You've got game, good reply. You passed my test.

It's fricken cold during winter there hey! I visited a friend there many years ago and didn't even know what cold was before that. Holly begolly! I remember something about a bakery somewhere around there (bit of a drive from their farm) being famous or something.

See what Reconnect says... they really are worth a yarn, as mentioned let me know if it doesn't work out. If they are dismissive or slow in responding as you are in a regional area let me know and I can give them a call to speed things up (PM me the branch you called).

If you want more hours at work, let me know on PM what you would see as the ideal progression plan / way forward and we can discuss a plan privately.

Conclusion, I'm impressed by your reply, you passed my test and I'm willing to help where I can and I can in many ways but first step is Reconnect. Welcome to the forums and thanks for being your authentic self. Oh and yes, your ip resolves to a server in St. Kilda :) You do know your stuff.

Smokin'Ace
11-14-2007, 05:58 AM
You've got game, good reply. You passed my test.

It's fricken cold during winter there hey! I visited a friend there many years ago and didn't even know what cold was before that. Holly begolly! I remember something about a bakery somewhere around there (bit of a drive from their farm) being famous or something.

Haha :p Yeah it does get really cold around this area in the Winter time, but In Summer months... It's freakin horrible I tell you... Bush fires and 40C+ degree heat lol... I guess another excuse to go swim in the lake and get sun burnt hahaha (Always forget to bring my sun-cream with me)

And a bakery being famous?..hmm, Maybe something to do with Ned Kelly? I think you might be talking about the one in Glenrowan. :)

http://www.glenrowan1880.com/ - Check that out if you haven't already.

See what Reconnect says... they really are worth a yarn, as mentioned let me know if it doesn't work out. If they are dismissive or slow in responding as you are in a regional area let me know and I can give them a call to speed things up (PM me the branch you called).

Yeah will do, thanks for that.

If you want more hours at work, let me know on PM what you would see as the ideal progression plan / way forward and we can discuss a plan privately.Thanks for that mate... I'll PM you when I get a chance and discuss it with you.

Conclusion, I'm impressed by your reply, you passed my test and I'm willing to help where I can and I can in many ways but first step is Reconnect. Welcome to the forums and thanks for being your authentic self. Oh and yes, your ip resolves to a server in St. Kilda :) You do know your stuff.Anyway thanks for your second reply. :) And my Internet is routing through St. Kilda tonight?... That's strange... It's usually routing through some other part of Melbourne then of to Sydney. :)

Anyway thanks dude.

Dominic
11-14-2007, 06:13 AM
I Googled around and i think the bakery I'm talking about is http://www.beechworthbakery.com/ so probably my old friend lived in that direction. Maybe it was a local pride thing more than it really being famous. Like their only tourist attraction or something. Is beechworth near you?

Konstantěn
11-14-2007, 06:20 AM
But the only problem with that is it's really expensive $80+/night and I don't have that sort of money.

80 dollar a night? :eek:
You meant a week, right?
or were they their christmas rates?

I found reading your post about dropping out of school painful, I recognised several things in it from my own experience (as I've stated before in the bullying thread, I dropped out in year 9) and I find it depressing that 15 years later nothing appears to have changed at all.

Computers is a good field to be in, but harder to get into than when I was writing games for the Dos/2/3/486 combo. It was pretty casual back then, now you need all these certifications that cost lots of money.

Anyway, best of luck mate, planning is the best thing you can do at this point.

Regards,
Konstantin

Smokin'Ace
11-14-2007, 06:27 AM
I Googled around and i think the bakery I'm talking about is http://www.beechworthbakery.com/ so probably my old friend lived in that direction. Maybe it was a local pride thing more than it really being famous. Like their only tourist attraction or something. Is beechworth near you?Oh Beechworth Bakery :) I love that place! Umm no.. It's not really near me... It's like a 2 hour or so drive... that's from memory tho.. Haven't been there since I was a little kid. ;)

Smokin'Ace
11-14-2007, 06:32 AM
80 dollar a night? :eek:
You meant a week, right?
or were they their christmas rates?

I found reading your post about dropping out of school painful, I recognised several things in it from my own experience (as I've stated before in the bullying thread, I dropped out in year 9) and I find it depressing that 15 years later nothing appears to have changed at all.

Computers is a good field to be in, but harder to get into than when I was writing games for the Dos/2/3/486 combo. It was pretty casual back then, now you need all these certifications that cost lots of money.

Anyway, best of luck mate, planning is the best thing you can do at this point.

Regards,
KonstantinYeah thanks for your post mate... Yeah your right.. You do need all these dam certifications and all this other crap to get into the field, but it is good money if you do tho (that's what I hear anyway)

And you dropped out at my age as well did you? I guess you were kinda lucky.. considering the law wasn't as strict those days and businesses didn't really care about VCE/VCAL (Was VCAL even around those days?) and all this other extra studying. But sorry to hear you had it bad as well dude.. I hate hearing others going through what I did... But least I know I'm not on my own. :)

Ohh... And about the $80/night... That's actually the price it costs to be in a single room with your parents permission at the YHA Hostels... And the other hostels/backpackers... Keep saying you HAVE to be 18 or over to stay there apparently. :(

goldfish
11-15-2007, 06:05 AM
they probably put it at that price to discourage ppl under 18 from staying there to be honest, whether thats good or bad.

good luck with everything and i hope it all works out.

i hope that you can wait until youre 16 and then get a full time job somewhere if poss. it opens up a lot more options if youre able to do that and maybe u can get a houseshare or some kind of accomodation and figure out what you want to do to ensure u enjoy your life.

good luck.

sk8r_rat
11-15-2007, 01:31 PM
Hi Smokin',

Hope your good. I'm glad you've posted on here, like Dominic said - you've got game, and you're obviously alot more open-minded and mature than other young people your age. And this is the right place to come if there's some issues in your life and you're at risk of homelessness. I got onto the streets in Brisbane when I was 17. It took me two years to get off them, I'm 20 now. I can absolutely understand where you're coming from.

I left home the day after I finished school, due to continual violence basically. I only stayed at home because I really wanted to finish yr 12 and go to uni, and I didn't know that there were services like independant accomodation for young people that you can live in and still do school. I never had any friends at high school, because I had chronic anxiety and depression because of home, and was bullied through primary school. I didn't realise I was depressed when I was at school, but I was, as anybody who lived in my house would be! I would never wish that I had stayed at home, I never want to live with my family ever again. But I really really wish that I had never gotten onto the streets. Cos once you get in it's so hard to get out. You will develop a drug addiction on the streets, will developed mental health issues, and will be unable to work, these things are all inevitable. So I really really hope that you never end up there, Smokin', cos life might be really hard living where you are and going to school, and if you want to get out of that situation go for it, but the streets would be a nightmare. I don't think you want to end up homeless at all, but I know that when you're down on yourself and can't see many options, sometimes you can do things out of desperation.

I've actually had a fair bit of contact with Reconnect myself. In my experience they are primarily a service that makes it possible for you to stay at home, so they address the issues there that are affecting you, or if it's not possible to stay at/return home they will help you to live independantly. I met my Reconnect worker when I was on the streets, and as my relationship with my parents was pretty bad she arranged a mediation session with my mum. But she also got me into shelters, met me for a "catch-up" every fortnight, support me through detox, etc. So they really are a great organisation who can let you know of all your options and support you with what you want to do. Definitely give em a call.

And also thanks for your post about "is slim sexy", my view exactly :)

Keep posting Smokin', I reckon you've got alot to offer

Sk8r girl.

Smokin'Ace
11-15-2007, 06:32 PM
Hi Smokin',

I left home the day after I finished school, due to continual violence basically. I only stayed at home because I really wanted to finish yr 12 and go to uni, and I didn't know that there were services like independant accomodation for young people that you can live in and still do school. I never had any friends at high school, because I had chronic anxiety and depression because of home, and was bullied through primary school. I didn't realise I was depressed when I was at school, but I was, as anybody who lived in my house would be! I would never wish that I had stayed at home, I never want to live with my family ever again. But I really really wish that I had never gotten onto the streets. Cos once you get in it's so hard to get out. You will develop a drug addiction on the streets, will developed mental health issues, and will be unable to work, these things are all inevitable. So I really really hope that you never end up there, Smokin', cos life might be really hard living where you are and going to school, and if you want to get out of that situation go for it, but the streets would be a nightmare. I don't think you want to end up homeless at all, but I know that when you're down on yourself and can't see many options, sometimes you can do things out of desperation.Thanks for a clear insight on what happened to you through your life and sorry to hear that you went through that much.. It's sad to read other peoples stories like yours because I think in my own mind how lucky I am with some things compared to others.

The only real bad things I have had to face in life is heavy depression in the school area e.g.. Being bullied in primary school just like you and continuing right up to high school. (Main reason I dropped out), and It's just been so hard putting up with all the shit in this town... And small country towns are the worse to live in if you have no friends.. and rumors get around faster then drinking a 600ml coke, and if it's something bad or It's a false aligation that's when I get ganged up on.. and cars around the streets try and run into me and It's just getting to much.

I've actually had a fair bit of contact with Reconnect myself. In my experience they are primarily a service that makes it possible for you to stay at home, so they address the issues there that are affecting you, or if it's not possible to stay at/return home they will help you to live independantly. I met my Reconnect worker when I was on the streets, and as my relationship with my parents was pretty bad she arranged a mediation session with my mum. But she also got me into shelters, met me for a "catch-up" every fortnight, support me through detox, etc. So they really are a great organisation who can let you know of all your options and support you with what you want to do. Definitely give em a call.They do sound like a very good organization... when I get a chance to ring them I will... and I'll see what I can sort out.. But can they offer you to move out into some area of Melbourne if my parents aren't doing any violence towards me physically or mentally? Because my main reason for wanting to leave is because of the town not my family you know so that's 1 big difference I'm a little worried about, you think they could help in that circumstance?

And also thanks for your post about "is slim sexy", my view exactly :)

Keep posting Smokin', I reckon you've got alot to offer

Sk8r girl.Ohh that's ok :) It's not everyday where you see someones opinion really stand out.. I just wish more girls would think like you!, and not care about there so called popularity at schools and shit. But thanks for your post sk8r_rat it really got me thinking.

Edit - I see you like Linkin Park as well? :D That's great to hear.. did you get a chance to see them live when they were in Australia In October?

Smokin'Ace
11-15-2007, 06:42 PM
they probably put it at that price to discourage ppl under 18 from staying there to be honest, whether thats good or bad.

good luck with everything and i hope it all works out.

i hope that you can wait until youre 16 and then get a full time job somewhere if poss. it opens up a lot more options if youre able to do that and maybe u can get a houseshare or some kind of accomodation and figure out what you want to do to ensure u enjoy your life.

good luck.Thanks for that goldfish, I understand why most only allow 18 and over... But still.. you know.. I wish they could lower it to at least 16 or actually allow someone to stay there if they are considered independent... But yeah thanks for your kind words. :) Much appreciated

Konstantěn
11-16-2007, 03:49 AM
Hey Smokin,

They did care about the VCE, just not as much as they do these days. Back then the VCE was pretty new, we were either still doing "change and approximation" :rolleyes: or it just become maths methods.
As far as programming went though, your work spoke for you, nothing else.
Shareware and the Demo scene was good like that :cool:

One thing I didn't know about when I dropped/was-forced out was that you can do VCE through TAFE. I was 21 before I found that out.
TAFE was just so much better than doing it through school. :D

Also if you are into programming and games, you might be interested in Deakins Bachelor of Games Programming, man things have changed.

http://www.bhtafe.edu.au/Courses/CVC03.htm
http://www.deakin.edu.au/future-students/courses/course.php?course=S333&stutype=local&keywords=game%20design

Regards,
Konstantin

Smokin'Ace
01-24-2008, 12:13 PM
Hey Smokin,

They did care about the VCE, just not as much as they do these days. Back then the VCE was pretty new, we were either still doing "change and approximation" :rolleyes: or it just become maths methods.
As far as programming went though, your work spoke for you, nothing else.
Shareware and the Demo scene was good like that :cool:Ohh ok :) Thanks for letting me know. I really would love to start up a web business and I really would like to move to Canada In the near future, Be really good if some other people on this forum tell me how it is over that side of the world, I know it's cold :D 1 big reason why I want to move there. hehe (I love the cold weather) :)

sk8r_rat
01-24-2008, 04:29 PM
Hi Smokin',

Good to hear from you again! I've been thinkin about you a bit and wondering how you're going. How are you going? :D How's home and school? I guess you've though some more about moving away from all that, canada sounds pretty good, if you have the funds.

What would be your web business? Is that how you'd get the funds for Canada? or some other means? That's one part of the world that I will definitely visit one day, I can't say I'd like to live there though cos I love that in Queensland I can wear singlets all year round, but I guess. I think it's kinda on par with New Zealand with the way the government manages their country, they treat their indigenous people better than most nations, they actually give a crap about their beautiful environment and put some measures in to protect it, they have a social security system that works, they value equal opportunity (women's rights, disabled rights, etc.), they haven't gone to war in Iraq, and they actually welcome refugees and don't try to lock up every man women and child who's seeking asylum in their nation, like Australia's done.

Hopefully somebody who lives/lived in Canada replies, great that you posted again anyways Smokin', hope you're good.

Sk8r girl.

Smokin'Ace
01-24-2008, 07:46 PM
Hey!!! :) How's things going with you?

I'm still out of school unfortantly still due for the same reasons and I don't have a new job, I haven't really been looking around much. But I was thinking the other night that I would love to move to Canada for heaps of reasons, many that you have already stated and because It would be a really big change for me and it will make me feel that I have more freedom because it's 1000's of miles away from this countryside that I've grown up to hate. [If that makes sense]

But yeah I have a friend In Alberta, and his a really good online mate, and I'm actually planning on starting up the business with him remotely, and hopefully earn some cash to get me to the country and start a new life that I dream for every night. I will admit it's been hard, I've been in a few fights lately with my mum and I've just been trying to get through the months til I reach some age that allows me to get a place In Melbourne so then I can find some employment and all. I'm 16 In July, the 20th to be exact so that's another year gone, so hopefully the next 2 go fast, so when I'm 18 I have more choice.

But it's fantastic to hear from you again! :) Thanks for keeping me in mind, it's nice to know people care about me. I'll try and come here more often, it's just I've mostly been sleeping the last few weeks and not really doing anything... just thinking/dreaming about a better life, to keep me sane I guess. But yeah thanks for your reply! and thanks for everything! :) means heaps to me.

Konstantěn
01-24-2008, 08:34 PM
Hey Smokin, long time no hear :)

Me, I'd prefer Sweden or Hokkaido, if I was going anywhere. But I can speak the local lingo, which is very Handy.
When I was young, I saw other places, seeing other cultures is a pretty neat thing, and it changes you subtly, and for the better. It's hard to explain but I've never regretted it.

I don't think it will give you all the answers you're looking for but you'll learn an awful lot about people, make friends, and hopefully not get knocked off by some rabid moose, or badly lost Texan :D

Regards,
Konstantin.

Smokin'Ace
01-25-2008, 06:57 AM
Hey Smokin, long time no hear :)

Me, I'd prefer Sweden or Hokkaido, if I was going anywhere. But I can speak the local lingo, which is very Handy.
When I was young, I saw other places, seeing other cultures is a pretty neat thing, and it changes you subtly, and for the better. It's hard to explain but I've never regretted it.

Regards,
Konstantin.Hey! :) How's you? Sweden or Hokkaido hey? I got a mate who lives In stockholm and he loves it there. ;) Like you said, you saw other places and all that and it made you a better person, that's why I really want to, while learning more about myself hmm [Maybe go on the amazing race?] haha.

I don't think it will give you all the answers you're looking for but you'll learn an awful lot about people, make friends, and hopefully not get knocked off by some rabid moose, or badly lost Texan :D Well, I always believed that it takes a lifetime to find out who you really are.. but still.. friends Is one thing I need, I don't have any real friends I can rely on. :( So hopefully the future will work out for me.

But anyway thanks for replying! :D Nice hearing from you again. How's Melbourne btw?

fudge
01-26-2008, 10:53 AM
i lived in western vic ..hamilton...and i know what these towns can be like....the boredom and the bullying is rife.......my son left in year 9 cos he was spat on everyday ....the school refused to do anything about it....i believe shepparton to be very simmilar.....
it is unfortunate that your mum can't move with you...to get you out of that place ....it is not easy to up and move though.....i did make the move back to NSW, but i had help...found a place that we liked ..my son returned to school and completed year ten
have you always lived there?????
cheers

Smokin'Ace
01-26-2008, 11:46 AM
Hey fudge :)

Sorry to hear about your son being in my situation as well, I know how depressing it can be, especially with teachers/school in general not doing anything about it. I really wish I could move and finish up to at least year 10 :( But looks like I don't have many options until I'm a little older.

have you always lived there?????

I've lived in this town most of my life yes, it's hell. I have lived In other places but they have all been country areas. That's why I really want to move to the city and finish school and hopefully get into something I really enjoy.

Regards,
Smokin

RomanaS
01-30-2008, 07:06 PM
You've got game, good reply. You passed my test.
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Conclusion, I'm impressed by your reply, you passed my test and I'm willing to help

I take it you won't help people who don't pass your test. That's very judgemental of you. Not at all fair too.

I really think you need to take a good hard look at what you are Domanic. You don't come across at all as being friendly. :mad:

Dominic
01-31-2008, 04:01 PM
I take it you won't help people who don't pass your test. That's very judgemental of you. Not at all fair too.

I really think you need to take a good hard look at what you are Domanic. You don't come across at all as being friendly. :mad:

Look around the forums a bit more. Get to know the setting, get to know me.

I'm not friendly if you haven't earned it with me already... I'm a Social Worker. Learn how to spell my name if you are going to use it. Yes I have a bullshit detector and an opinion.

I am openly passionate about the things I'm passionate about. I'm wrong often, I'm not perfect. That's why I prefer homeless or formerly homeless people as members of the moderation team - people who will pull me into line when needed. Managing an online forum - probably I've become more intolerant over the years... but pressing buttons is something that has proven productive over the years to get members to open up more genuinely or reveal their true colours.

People who don't pass 'the test', reveal some pretty predictable bullshit. This forum is openly online so we get a lot of outsiders with bullshit intent and we also get a lot of people who aren't what they say they are. Also people who say one thing and the reality is another. 'The test' is one part bullshit detector and other part you are only revealing part of your story.. get real or this forum is not for you.

I'd like to be better, but i have a lot of a hangover from stuff that has happened in the past in the forums stuff you wont see - people who are full of shit and want to take advantage of legit members.

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